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Ahh, the visit to Koons!

You know it! I never seen a larger or busier car dealership in my life. They treated me very well and were quick given the number of people buying cars. And the price for my car was about 3k less than others near where I live. It was a good experience for me.
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Had a 2013 JKU, loved every minute of it. Water pump went out @ 30K, replaced under warranty. Problem is, if you're into modding you can literally modify these things so that they suck to drive on paved roads, which is where most people drive 90% of the time. That said, I'd love another one, nothing like open air driving out in the sticks (lost mine in my divorce). Oh well!
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I would gladly pay for an extra water pump or two to avoid driving a boring, souless transit every day.
So you want to buy a substandard vehicle, beat on it every day on crappy roads, in crappy weather and rack up the miles so it's dead in three years because it isn't boring? This attitude is why the trash manufacturers are still business. Takes a certain type to buy garbage because they don't want to be bored while sitting in traffic.

I think guys who say this are justifying their bad purchase to themselves rather than anyone else. Take any other large purchase, are you going to buy the least reliable television, washing machine, HOUSE, etc. because it isn't boring? Nope. So don't pretend there's some sense in buying a piece of **** car.

I drive a Camry every day. Since 2016 I've done nothing to it except change the oil. It's not exciting or fun. Who cares? It's paid off and since they RETAIN VALUE, it's like a savings account. I've had only Camrys as daily drivers for 20 years now and I've never been stranded and never done ANY work to them except regular maintenance. Literally. No water pumps, no alternators. Never even changed a ****ing accessory belt on one. Oil, tires, batteries, brakes. I also have a 1965 Mustang and two motorcycles. You can spend a lot of money on your hobbies and projects with a clear conscience when you know your daily driver isn't a money pit.

Exciting is 400cc two-stroke motorcycle with no suspension or brakes to speak of. And I bet I could take your Jeep down hard in an autocross with my Camry. So let's not pretend anymore.

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The phrase "holier than thou" just popped into my head. No idea why.
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I had no idea Jeeps were such polarizing vehicles!

For those of you with such strong anti- opinions: you should spend some time in L.A. - where the roads are CLUTTERED with expensive German cars (Porsche, Audi, BMW, etc.) specifically designed to go 120+ mph on the Autobahn, but never see anything faster than 35 mph in L.A. due to traffic congestion.

Maybe I should start another thread on what you all have to say about that!

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The phrase "holier than thou" just popped into my head. No idea why.
Gotta justify my boring daily driver to myself!

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I had no idea Jeeps were such polarizing vehicles!

For those of you with such strong anti- opinions: you should spend some time in L.A. - where the roads are CLUTTERED with expensive German cars (Porsche, Audi, BMW, etc.) specifically designed to go 120+ mph on the Autobahn, but never see anything faster than 35 mph in L.A. due to traffic congestion.

Maybe I should start another thread on what you all have to say about that!
It's really the same conversation. People want cars for every other reason than they're reliable transportation. Which is cool but, in my opinion, ill advised for a daily driver. Been there, done that, when I was young and could only have one car. Later I was able to split the fun cars from the daily drivers. Given that this is a Mustang forum and not many of us daily drive them (some do!) I figure most of us have the income to have two cars. The car manufacturers should stop making trash cars when reliable cars aren't a mystery. But we reward them by getting an Audi or BMW (or Jeep) to daily drive. I stand by (vehemently!) my boring daily driver.

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Gotta justify my boring daily driver to myself!
Not really. Though Camry's are kind of milktoast, they are generally very high quality automobiles. Every Camry they ever made was on point, they never made a run of them that made the owners of other year models point and laugh. I can think of a car line or two you can't say that about.

Anyway, maybe ease up a little about your Camry. You were starting to sound a little like a Prius owner and you wouldn't want that.

(Note: Never start a "cars" conversation with the owner of a Prius. Just don't. Most are clueless and it won't matter, but that one out of ten will make you want to commit a murder-suicide in short order.)
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I apologize. Every time I see the "I got (insert non-reliable car) because I didn't want something boring," I immediately think they're talking about my Camry (which they probably are!) and I get a little hot under the collar. At least I can make fun of myself.

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What's so boring about a Toyota Camry? I'd LOVE to drive one of these Camrys as a daily driver!


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Vw gti ftw!🏆

Get off my back, get out of my pocket....

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So you want to buy a substandard vehicle, beat on it every day on crappy roads, in crappy weather and rack up the miles so it's dead in three years because it isn't boring? This attitude is why the trash manufacturers are still business. Takes a certain type to buy garbage because they don't want to be bored while sitting in traffic.

I think guys who say this are justifying their bad purchase to themselves rather than anyone else. Take any other large purchase, are you going to buy the least reliable television, washing machine, HOUSE, etc. because it isn't boring? Nope. So don't pretend there's some sense in buying a piece of **** car.

I drive a Camry every day. Since 2016 I've done nothing to it except change the oil. It's not exciting or fun. Who cares? It's paid off and since they RETAIN VALUE, it's like a savings account. I've had only Camrys as daily drivers for 20 years now and I've never been stranded and never done ANY work to them except regular maintenance. Literally. No water pumps, no alternators. Never even changed a ****ing accessory belt on one. Oil, tires, batteries, brakes. I also have a 1965 Mustang and two motorcycles. You can spend a lot of money on your hobbies and projects with a clear conscience when you know your daily driver isn't a money pit.

Exciting is 400cc two-stroke motorcycle with no suspension or brakes to speak of. And I bet I could take your Jeep down hard in an autocross with my Camry. So let's not pretend anymore.
I’m glad you like your Camry. Cheers.

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...because I didn't want something boring," I immediately think they're talking about my Camry
What? You mean you don't have a turbo and at least a 100 shot of nitrous on that thing? And you call yourself a Toyota driver...
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I don't get all the jeep hate. I have a 99 sahara that I daily drove back and forth to work every day for 10 years and never left me broken down alongside the road. I can't even say that about my mustang! About the most major thing I did to my jeep was rebuild the 5 speed transmission, which wasn't hard and wasn't even a roadside breakdown (lost 5th gear).

I think because they're jeeps, people think that they can abuse and neglect them and expect them to keep going and that's just not the case. Like any other vehicle, if they're properly maintained they'll last as long as any other vehicle. Mine has 160k plus and is semi-retired now, making only short trips due mainly to rust accumulated over 20 years of Michigan winters but it starts and runs every time I turn the key.

A jeep unlimited is probably a good vehicle as long as its well maintained, although I'm not sold on the minivan motor.
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I don't get all the jeep hate.
Same reason others bash Fords and Chevys.
They find a few things they don’t like and declare it an abomination.
I once had a POS ford escort that I bashed the hell out of.
Had VW Jetta that I tried to take good care of but it continued to let me down.
Have a 07 Dodge Caliber and believe me, there are plenty of things to hate about it, but it has been very reliable.
Every time my Jeep is broke and waiting for parts, I get in the Caliber and it never fails to get me where I need to go.

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