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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-23-2019, 04:14 PM Thread Starter
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Speaking of fire extinguishers,

As someone is on the main forum,
For track cars, if an extinguisher is required, does the racing association you are with determine fire extinguisher locations, or is it up to the individual?
If individual, where do you place yours?
Car with full cage, but passenger seat. So say track/street car.
I won't be racing, but need ideas for a good placement point.
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I would think that if a racing assc had rules about it, It would have to be with in reach as you are strapped in the seat, anything further away than that would be NO good if you are stuck in the seat.
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If you are racing at all, you NEED a fire suppression system with multiple heads at very specific locations...namely, driver, engine compartment, fuel cell, passenger if seat included.

Otherwise, build a bracket that attaches to the passenger seat front studs where you can mount the extinguisher quick release bracket and bottle for easy access...or mount the quick release bracket between the seats behind the shifter.

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The general requirement is a #2.5 pound extinguisher mounted (bolted, not screwed) to a location you can reach, while seated with your belts on. This unit can be attached to your cage, or bolted to the tunnel, or most anywhere you can reach it easily. A larger multi head 5 pound extinguisher is an option if you personally donít like the smell of burning flesh. I actually have both since Iím reluctant to want to pop the big unit to put out a smaller under hood fire.

The thing is, lots of tracks for simple DE events have people working corners who have no first responder training, and if you catch fire they will waive flags but will not respond to you as you burn. So you are going to burn until professional responders get there, perhaps three to even five minutes. A three layer suit I think (but forget for sure) burns through in three minutes, maybe just a little more. So: Get the best three layer suite you feel you can afford, mount that extinguisher where you can find and unlatch it with your eyes closed, and consider an on board multi-head suppression unit.

Fire sucks.
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A three layer suit I think (but forget for sure) burns through in three minutes, maybe just a little more.
Nope, not even close. The most common SFI 3.2A/5 gives you about 10 Seconds:
https://sfifoundation.com/article-1/

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Nope, not even close. The most common SFI 3.2A/5 gives you about 10 Seconds:
https://sfifoundation.com/article-1/
Scary stuff...

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Thanks, all.
Maybe I will just sit in the car and go "vroom, vroom". 😁
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Nope, not even close. The most common SFI 3.2A/5 gives you about 10 Seconds:
https://sfifoundation.com/article-1/
Yep, lots faster than I was remembering obviously, been a long time since I looked at it. But thatís a single layer, so a 3.2A/5 single is 10 seconds, a triple layer is higher but certainly not in the area I was remembering. Anyway. Makes you wonder why someone would wear a thin two layer suit with a light coat of oil, no underwear, no balaclava, old thin gloves, but if you walk the paddock at most amateur events youíll see nearly everyone dressed this way.

My cool suite has a extra length added in so I can get fully out of the car before I have to disconnect it, same for my radio, enough length so I donít get stuck in the car fumbling. Iím old and slow, I need every advantage.

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Thanks, everyone.
Since I won't be racing this, it isn't critical, but I appreciate the insights.
Not sure about a fire system, but hey, this is on a Pinto, so maybe. :-)
Actually will have a fuel cell, so not a big worry there.
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