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Itís stupid. Why say Boss 429 on the fender and they say Boss 546 on the engine?

This. Why even call it a Boss 429 with a 546 in it?
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This. Why even call it a Boss 429 with a 546 in it?

Mine will say Boss 429 on the side, but also say Boss 600 under the hood....


Ricks Boss 429 says Boss 429 on the side, but its a 494. So, you think he should change the badging on the outside to match the displacement? Or was the Boss 429 a combination of unique combination parts that the entire car special.


The displacement doesn't matter! Its the heads! Its always about the heads. Everything that makes the car different was to accommodate those beautiful heads.
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Mine will say Boss 429 on the side, but also say Boss 600 under the hood....


Ricks Boss 429 says Boss 429 on the side, but its a 494. So, you think he should change the badging on the outside to match the displacement? Or was the Boss 429 a combination of unique combination parts that the entire car special.


The displacement doesn't matter! Its the heads! Its always about the heads. Everything that makes the car different was to accommodate those beautiful heads.

If I recall correctly, you are making a Boss 429 clone - no issues with your engine. Your car, you should do exactly what you want.



Ricks Boss 429 is a genuine Boss 429 correct? No reason to change that.


But to sell a new product as a Boss 429, but not have a 429 engine in it, that makes no sense. Its got 18" wheels, painted bumpers and trim, completely different interior, different gas cap, and a 546 engine. And those are the differences spotted in 2 seconds. There is nothing that makes it recognizable as a Boss 429 except the hood scoop. Anyone can buy that scoop and put it on a 69-70 fastback.



Don't get me wrong, I like the car, but I don't understand the Boss 429 continuation angle. It's nothing like a Boss 429. Had the engine been a 429 then they would have been able to hang their hat on that with all of the other mods.
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If I recall correctly, you are making a Boss 429 clone - no issues with your engine. Your car, you should do exactly what you want.
Ricks Boss 429 is a genuine Boss 429 correct? No reason to change that.
But to sell a new product as a Boss 429, but not have a 429 engine in it, that makes no sense. Its got 18" wheels, painted bumpers and trim, completely different interior, different gas cap, and a 546 engine. And those are the differences spotted in 2 seconds. There is nothing that makes it recognizable as a Boss 429 except the hood scoop. Anyone can buy that scoop and put it on a 69-70 fastback.
Don't get me wrong, I like the car, but I don't understand the Boss 429 continuation angle. It's nothing like a Boss 429. Had the engine been a 429 then they would have been able to hang their hat on that with all of the other mods.
I see your point. It really should be a bone stock car for them to call it a Boss 429 and advertise it as new.

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I agree that someone could spend a fraction of the money and get a better car. I can see someone with mega bucks and wanting a Boss 9 to drive spending the money, although, that kind of money is still too expensive for me to drive around.

As far as it not having a genuine 429 engine, it has the heads. Those are what separate the Boss from any other 429 or FBB. Has everyone here that rebuilt their engine re-badged their car to reflect new displacement after a rebore or crank swap? I know for a FACT there are a bunch of cars with 289/302 emblems running 306/312/331 engines in them.

The truth is, it will end up being a faster, better handling car than the original. It is not much different than a lot of restomods being built, just built by a factory for a WHOLE lot more money.
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What's everyone's take on the 1st year depreciation on these "new" Boss 429's? I bet its colossal...
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Pro built restomods cost 200k these days. And that's just to start, and you may need to supply the donor.

On the other hand, I don't see these cars holding their value - even with the continuation designation.

But hey, I could be wrong, I didn't see the Fox Mustangs being bid to 25K+ nowadays either.

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What's everyone's take on the 1st year depreciation on these "new" Boss 429's? I bet its colossal...


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Pro built restomods cost 200k these days. And that's just to start, and you may need to supply the donor.
A couple of years ago, I was talking with a guy up in Reno about his Nova. Real nice car with a big block chevy under the hood. He supplied the car and spent 180K getting it to where he wanted it. There's no way he'll ever get that for his car now. Nice car...yes. 180K? No



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I don't know, I think you guy are being a bit hard on the car.

What if you could buy this exact car for $500 (you have to keep it - not flip it) Would you pay $500? There are folks here would buy it for $500 but there are people in the world who will feel the pain of spending 200K + less than you or I will feel spending $500. They won't have to come up with a donor or or do the work themselves, or consign a car to a restorer that may take years and perform dubious work. All they have to do is see this in the Christmas Hammacher Schlemmer catalog and write a check for a turn key car with a warranty.

My only gripe is that, like others have mentioned, I don't like the idea of using one of the dwindling number of vintage shells left to build this car, or any other "tribute" project. But if they were using the Dynacorn repro shell, I'd say have at it.

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The price tag is well within what the custom car industry is charging for these cars. It's within my budget but I don't want to risk the roulette wheel market for these continuation cars. Now the exotic car buyer who wants to add a reliable turn key classic to his stable, this is perfect.

Check out what they are doing to Dodge Power Wagons for over 300K

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I wish Dynacorn would make bodies for these guys so they don't scoop up all the 69s sport roofs left out there. They are hard enough to come by as it is.
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I don't know, I think you guy are being a bit hard on the car.

What if you could buy this exact car for $500 (you have to keep it - not flip it) Would you pay $500? There are folks here would buy it for $500 but there are people in the world who will feel the pain of spending 200K + less than you or I will feel spending $500. They won't have to come up with a donor or or do the work themselves, or consign a car to a restorer that may take years and perform dubious work. All they have to do is see this in the Christmas Hammacher Schlemmer catalog and write a check for a turn key car with a warranty.

My only gripe is that, like others have mentioned, I don't like the idea of using one of the dwindling number of vintage shells left to build this car, or any other "tribute" project. But if they were using the Dynacorn repro shell, I'd say have at it.

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Making a quick reply but yes, it isn't a real BOSS but it looks good to some and the buyer is happy. Not my taste but hey, it has the semi classic look. Not offended, personally.
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