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Monte Carlo Bar

This might be a stupid question.

If you have to push out the aprons in order to install a Monte Carlo Bar, can it pivot up the motor mounts raising the engine slightly higher?

What should the measurement between aprons be?

I have one of the rare 6 cyl. Fan shrouds and I am having trouble lining it up with the motor. It seems the motor is sitting too low.

I really donít want to cut up the shroud to make it fit if I donít have to.

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Severe inward sag might lower the engine a bit, but it would have to be pretty bad. Do you have an export brace? Are the mounts themselves sagging?

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I'd suggest slotting the shroud brackets(or make new ones) if you don't want to modify the shroud..

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You "MAY" gain a tiny bit of engine height from installing a monte carlo bar, but I doubt it would be much more than 1/8" since the engine mounts sit so low on the pivot arm.. to your question re: measurement between aprons, mine is right on 1015mm at the top edge, different bars do vary some in the manufacture process tho..

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If the fan shroud does not fir either it is the shroud or the car.

If you are confident that the shroud is correct, I would investigate what is wrong with the car.

50+ years, who can guess what happened before it fell into your hands.

The engine mounts may have been slotted to lower the engine for a taller air cleaner or it could have the wrong rubber isolators on it.


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The motor mounts have gone bad, years of service will do this. Replace them.

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Severe inward sag might lower the engine a bit, but it would have to be pretty bad. Do you have an export brace? Are the mounts themselves sagging?
I currently do not have a Monte Carlo Bar. Thought about adding if I had severe sag in the aprons. Will probably add eventually.

How can I determine if the mounts are sagging?

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The motor mounts have gone bad, years of service will do this. Replace them.

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The motor mounts have already been replaced. Only one for the left and right side offered on a 6 cyl Mustang.

I will look to see if the mounts are slotted. I think I checked them once before and they were not. Edit: I checked some on eBay and the holes are not slotted.

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"....... Do you have an export brace? ?.........."

^^^^^^^^ this.


If you don't have the export brace, then I'd suggest getting one . The export brace is a much higher priority item than a Monte Carlo bar. How well the export brace fits will tell you if you have sagging shock towers. For example, If the combination of Monte Carlo bar and export brace add up to 100% of chassis improvement! Then the export brace will provide 80%+ of the chassis stiffening improvement, with the Monte Carlo bar adding just another 10% more or less. Those are just estimates, but you get the picture. Export braces are the cake, Monte Carlo bars are just the icing.

The fit of Monte Carlo bars can vary from supplier to supplier, and even the same supplier can have MC bars that vary in dimensions. Not great for the consumers, buts that the way it is. Export braces on the other hand, if you buy the better one, are pretty good quality and don't have any dimensional quality control problems that I know of.

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