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This may be a dumb question but do the aftermarket front suspension still utilize the factory export brace? I have an opertunity to purchase a HD Shelby export brace. I will pass on it if it's not used or replaced in these kits.

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It won’t be in any of the kits. Purchase away...so long as it is the Scott Drake deep stamped piece.

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This may be a dumb question but do the aftermarket front suspension still utilize the factory export brace? I have an opertunity to purchase a HD Shelby export brace. I will pass on it if it's not used or replaced in these kits.

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TCP makes some really good suspension pieces, along with rack and pinion steering. I would seriously consider them. After doing all my homework for a couple months, I went through them.

BTW, you CANNOT use the factory export brace with their front coilover setup.


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I've been looking into this for a few years now including doing some of my own modifications on the front end. I know for me I have found no perfect system or a combination of parts from various venders that meet what I think my front suspension setup should be. I'm a cabinet maker, so what do I know about suspensions anyway? Although I'm not sold on the use of Heim joints on a mostly street "with some autocross" suspension, I'm going to be ordering "Shaun's" Street or Track coilover system because it comes closest to what I want to accomplish and the reviews are all crazy positive. I guess I'm spoiled by modern cars and want a modern coil over suspension and overdrive transmission in my old Mustang. I am OK with the factory AM radio though!

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I've been looking into this for a few years now including doing some of my own modifications on the front end. I know for me I have found no perfect system or a combination of parts from various venders that meet what I think my front suspension setup should be. I'm a cabinet maker, so what do I know about suspensions anyway? Although I'm not sold on the use of Heim joints on a mostly street "with some autocross" suspension, I'm going to be ordering "Shaun's" Street or Track coilover system because it comes closest to what I want to accomplish and the reviews are all crazy positive. I guess I'm spoiled by modern cars and want a modern coil over suspension and overdrive transmission in my old Mustang. I am OK with the factory AM radio though!

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Don't fear the Heim joint on the street. They'll far outlast stock parts. I believe 7 years for me with zero issues.
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Don't fear the Heim joint on the street. They'll far outlast stock parts. I believe 7 years for me with zero issues.
Considering I won't dive the car a couple thousand miles a year it seems silly, and it is. Still, it looks race car"ish". I've got issues! And the forum members all responded "amen"
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Ditto on what Husk said about HEIM joints My homemade strut rods use them and they are one of the best mods on my car
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Like I was saying before. You have to understand what the faults are of these suspensions, how they relate to your intended use and how to rectify it. Then you can pick the right components. Keep in mind, the more chances to one part is going to effect something else and maybe not in a good way. You have to find a balance in it all

After that what I discovered is like winning the pony. You have, now what do you do? You’ll need to know how to set it up or you’ll never get the performance you’re looking for! I came to that realization after I had my suspension done. Now what, send it out to the local chain store for a alignment? Good luck with that.

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Like I was saying before. You have to understand what the faults are of these suspensions, how they relate to your intended use and how to rectify it. Then you can pick the right components. Keep in mind, the more chances to one part is going to effect something else and maybe not in a good way. You have to find a balance in it all

After that what I discovered is like winning the pony. You have, now what do you do? You’ll need to know how to set it up or you’ll never get the performance you’re looking for! I came to that realization after I had my suspension done. Now what, send it out to the local chain store for a alignment? Good luck with that.
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Understand the faults in order to decide what to change/fix for your intended use. Lots of reading and research.

I went through a similar decision process recently and thought I’d put together the options I considered for your review. Of course, the first thing you must decide is what are you’re going to do with the car. Talk to Opentracker and Street or Track first. Do research and watch the SoT, CJ and Global West videos. Understand that you probably won’t find a “best,” just lots of good options.

Level 1. For the occasional driver to the Dairy Queen all that is necessary is a refresh of the suspension parts. Most cars this age will need all of the rubber replaced – bushings, boots – and ball joints and tie rods. You might also consider replacing the UCA and LCA as they have aged.
Level 2. I’ll call this “Period Correct Update.” You can install all the upgrade options that were available at the time. The Shelby drop, as mentioned, is an absolute. Then roller spring perches (ok, they weren’t available, but the original Falcons had a bronze bushing so it’s close), 1” sway bar, stiffer/lowering springs and shocks (front and rear), export brace (the good one), and roller idler arm. All of these options are available at multiple good vendors.
Level 3. I’ll call this “Looks Period Correct.” Replace the UCA and LCA with reinforced examples of the original which include spherical bearings, Del-a-lum bushings, or similar rubber replacement. Opentracker, Street or Track and Global West offer good products, among others.
Level 4. Call this “Looks Period Correct – Sort Of.” Step up to tubular control arms and adjustable strut rods. Plus sub-frame connectors. Street or Track, Opentracker, Global West, to name a few. And consider Zray’s cross-member.
Level 5. Not sure what name to give this level. Here is where you go with coil-over front suspension. This is probably the most bang, but for an increased buck and loss of “originality.”
Level 6. Forget all the above, and put in an entire new suspension front and rear.

Of course, you can “mix and match.” Many put adjustable strut rods, sub-frame connectors and Zray’s cross-member with original style arms.
For the record, I wanted a road-trip setup for long vacation drives. I went Global West tubular suspension for the caster gain without excessive alignment adjustment; plus I added other good stuff. Remember, you can always step-up. Be sure to replace what needs replacement even if with stock parts as they are relatively inexpensive and will give you the most improvement for the least cash.
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I have an opertunity to purchase a HD Shelby export brace. I will pass on it if it's not used or replaced in these kits.

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Check the cowl hole spacing on it. Early "Shelby" had different spacing that I don't really see the need to change to. Quite simply, the export brace was used on the Shelby, not that they had another one for exported Shelbys. Nothing HD or not about them although there are some repops made that are of a lesser thickness.
Speaking of heim joints there are some suspension dealers that also carry cowl braces and shock tower braces that are adjustable via heim joints but not necessarily in a kit. im sure they are well made and do the job, certainly have a bling factor but i always wonder if people might not be putting their car wonky making them tight instead of making their car fit the spec, if that makes sense. Like many of use that had to force our car around the export brace but if we had adjustable braces how would we know what was "correct?"

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