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Best Early Hood?

I am too the point of needing to get new hood ordered for my 65. Not sure if I have early 65 or late, I will have to check tonight. I assume, that the folded edge might be preferable to non folded, but it looks like there may be several versions. I am pretty certain that I remember having the front edge chrome and think I saw it on a high shelf the other night.
Is there a reason (not concerned over concourse correct) to get one version over the other ?

Also, NPD lists one as being not only much cheaper than the original Ford tooling, but also claims it is improved over the original. I was planning to spend the extra $$ for Ford tooling but... Anyone want to comment?

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I am too the point of needing to get new hood ordered for my 65. Not sure if I have early 65 or late, I will have to check tonight. I assume, that the folded edge might be preferable to non folded, but it looks like there may be several versions. I am pretty certain that I remember having the front edge chrome and think I saw it on a high shelf the other night.
Is there a reason (not concerned over concourse correct) to get one version over the other ?
If your car's build date (door tag) is August 1964 or earlier, then you might want to invest in a 64 1/2 hood... It's not a matter of "preferable", it's just a matter of what's right for your car.

That said, there is only one choice for a 64 1/2 hood, and that's Original Ford Tooling. Taiwan doesn't make a 64 1/2 style hood. To further compound your confusion, the Original Ford Tooling 64 1/2 hoods (NPD # 16612-0) were manufactured using the late-1966-style frame (all 65-66 Original Ford Tooling hoods use this frame), so it's not as concours-correct as an original production hood would be. I honestly don't know the differences on the frames lol!! I'm sure someone here brighter than me regarding 64 1/2 and 65 can answer it.


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Also, NPD lists one as being not only much cheaper than the original Ford tooling, but also claims it is improved over the original. I was planning to spend the extra $$ for Ford tooling but... Anyone want to comment?

Rick, @69bossnine , you want to lend your guidance?
Hmmmm..... We have been aggressively trying to add content to our website to assist in better SEO, and I think that whoever wrote the spiel for our 16612-1C hood online is a rogue employee who misinterpreted what "improved" means.

Our cheaper 16612-1C reproduction hood is improved and better than OTHER REPRODUCTIONS. It is manufactured by CK, and I do indeed consider it to be the gold-standard for reproduction hoods. BUT... there is no basis to consider it to be "an improved design compared to the original".

Please disregard that blather, and I'm going to jump on the source of it.

Hope I helped you decide, instead of just confuse!

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Much 'preciated Rick!

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Hmmmm..... We have been aggressively trying to add content to our website to assist in better SEO, and I think that whoever wrote the spiel for our 16612-1C hood online is a rogue employee who misinterpreted what "improved" means.

Our cheaper 16612-1C reproduction hood is improved and better than OTHER REPRODUCTIONS. It is manufactured by CK, and I do indeed consider it to be the gold-standard for reproduction hoods. BUT... there is no basis to consider it to be "an improved design compared to the original".

Please disregard that blather, and I'm going to jump on the source of it.

Hope I helped you decide, instead of just confuse!

Rick
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Yeah, it says better than the "original". I am guessing they mean the original reproduction and NOT the original hood.

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Yeah, it says better than the "original". I am guessing they mean the original reproduction and NOT the original hood.
That entire spiel is coming down tonight, and a Come to Jesus meeting regarding web-content will be happening tomorrow..

Nothing that bugs me more when I'm cruising around on other parts websites is when I see a bunch of B.S. and nonsense pumping up a part that's just a part. So you can imagine how ruffled I get when I see something like that put up on our site. I'm glad you pointed it out to me!!

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That entire spiel is coming down tonight, and a Come to Jesus meeting regarding web-content will be happening tomorrow..

Nothing that bugs me more when I'm cruising around on other parts websites is when I see a bunch of B.S. and nonsense pumping up a part that's just a part. So you can imagine how ruffled I get when I see something like that put up on our site. I'm glad you pointed it out to me!!

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I wouldn't be too tough, it probably seemed perfectly clear in the mind of the person that did it. I can pick apart a technical diagram, then stumble over a sales pitch, need it spelled out for me.

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I could really confuse the mix and bring up the 3 different versions of the early hoods, but probably not needed in this regard.
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I am too the point of needing to get new hood ordered for my 65. Not sure if I have early 65 or late, I will have to check tonight. I assume, that the folded edge might be preferable to non folded, but it looks like there may be several versions. I am pretty certain that I remember having the front edge chrome and think I saw it on a high shelf the other night.
Is there a reason (not concerned over concourse correct) to get one version over the other ?

Also, NPD lists one as being not only much cheaper than the original Ford tooling, but also claims it is improved over the original. I was planning to spend the extra $$ for Ford tooling but... Anyone want to comment?

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If you're talking about the '65 fastback in your sig, you want the folded edge.
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If you're talking about the '65 fastback in your sig, you want the folded edge.
Ah, good catch, I'd not noticed the fastback mentioned in the signature...

That puts either the Ford Tooling or the reproduction 65-66 hoods into play.
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Thanks guys! Ordered this earlier today https://www.npdlink.com/product/1965.../102385/204924

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What is the build date of the car? There are actually 2 types of "64 1/2" hoods, those for pre August 64 cars and another used on early production cars, or at least some mid to late April and earlier production. These are like regular 65-66 hoods in that they have the folded corners, but don't have the holes punched on the underside of the leading edge that are used to mount trim. They also have different reinforcement humps stamped into the bottom structure.

I found this out upon researching my 64 Indy Pace car coupe. I have since seen this hood type on several other early production cars.

This hood is not reproduced.
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What is the build date of the car? There are actually 2 types of "64 1/2" hoods, those for pre August 64 cars and another used on early production cars, or at least some mid to late April and earlier production. These are like regular 65-66 hoods in that they have the folded corners, but don't have the holes punched on the underside of the leading edge that are used to mount trim. They also have different reinforcement humps stamped into the bottom structure.

I found this out upon researching my 64 Indy Pace car coupe. I have since seen this hood type on several other early production cars.

This hood is not reproduced.
Actually, there's 3 different '64.5 hoods, or at least that's what is talked about over at Concours Mustangs. I have a mid-March build (best guess since door plate missing), and have the non-folded edge hood, but the date code is obscured by paint, so I can't tell if it's the original hood or a replacement.
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