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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 05-13-2019, 10:10 AM Thread Starter
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T5 conversion shifter issue

I posted on here a couple weeks ago about an issue with my T5 install on my 66 convertible (was originally a c4 auto). The shifter bolts are roughly 2 inches forward of the hole in the floor where the c4 shifter went through. I got several responses (thanks) but I now have pics to share. So, any folks out there have any idea why the shifter sits this far forward? Have pics of the hole in the floorboard and where the shifter sits, views of the T5, the crossmember, and motor mounts. Please help!
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Don't know why the pics are getting rotated on the upload. Sorry about that.
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It's difficult to determine the distance that the trans sits below the tunnel sheet metal, but the alignment fore and aft in the car looks like a shifter similar to what is sold by MDL would center the shifter up in the opening. The offset shifter is normal in early Mustangs.
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It is possible that you could have to clearance the opening slightly (less than 1/4 ") to clear the surface indicated in red.
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You do have the early style motor mounts but I don't think you have them reversed. I am using the same transmission crossmember that you have. Maybe your description of the shifter being 2" forward is a little exaggerated. A photo of the shifter as seen from inside the car with better lighting and with the carpet pulled out of the way would help me a lot.
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I posted on here a couple weeks ago about an issue with my T5 install on my 66 convertible (was originally a c4 auto). The shifter bolts are roughly 2 inches forward of the hole in the floor where the c4 shifter went through. I got several responses (thanks) but I now have pics to share. So, any folks out there have any idea why the shifter sits this far forward? Have pics of the hole in the floorboard and where the shifter sits, views of the T5, the crossmember, and motor mounts. Please help!
OK, relax. The shifter is not centered on the housing, it sits to the rear. You should have installed it before installing the trans, though, now it will be an awkward pain.


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Looks like it will fit fine to me. Going to be a pain to put in at this point though, may have to drop the back of the trans down.

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It is possible that you could have to clearance the opening slightly (less than 1/4 ") to clear the surface indicated in red.
That's exactly what I had to do......not a big deal at all as I recall.

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It's difficult to determine the distance that the trans sits below the tunnel sheet metal, but the alignment fore and aft in the car looks like a shifter similar to what is sold by MDL would center the shifter up in the opening. The offset shifter is normal in early Mustangs.
I used the MDL shifter and only had to clearance the front toward the firewall side 1/8" just so I could get the trans as high as possible in the tunnel. The trimming was optional.

You don't have to use the the conversion shifters, it just keeps you from having to drill shifter boot holes and possibly replacing the carpet.

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Looks good to me. PIA to get to the bolts, but stock worked good for me. short throw had to be ground to fit the hole( the fixed part of the shifter)

It's just a little rust...

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Here is a photo of my T5 next to the original T10 I removed. You can see that the actual shifter handle on the T5 is 3/4" forward of the shifter handle on the T10. That is a Hurst shifter on the T5. Disregard that large, rectangular plate at the bottom of the shifter and concern yourself with the shifter handle.
I did not cut or grind anything on the original shifter hole to install this T5 in my '65.
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I used the MDL shifter and only had to clearance the front toward the firewall side 1/8" just so I could get the trans as high as possible in the tunnel. The trimming was optional.

You don't have to use the the conversion shifters, it just keeps you from having to drill shifter boot holes and possibly replacing the carpet.
When I did my conversion, I had to use the offset MDL shifter to center the lever in the factory console. Without the additional complexity that the console adds to the install, I could have easily gone with a straight shifter like you suggest.
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To me, it looks like you have miss matched motor mounts (early on one side and later on the other).

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That looks about like where mine sat too. The stock T5 shifter worked. I've also tried the MDL to centre it within the console.
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