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HEDMAN HEADERS or DOUGS HEADERS?

Does anyone know if the steering box and long shaft will need to be removed in order to install headers and then reinstalled? Also has anyone with a 302 Stroker motor in a 64-1/2 Coupe used Dougs headers with success?

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I have long tube hedman headers and there worked just fine with the stock steering in my 66. I later went with borgeson power and it they worked ok with that too.
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I had Hedman long tubes on my 66 Mustang with the only issue being a lowered car and speed bumps .
I much prefer my current Hedman shorties.

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^^^^I second this recommendation. Awesome fit and finish.
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I appreciate the recommendation guys but my other question is if the steering box and shaft are in the way of installing the headers? Are the FPA headers pricey? Thanks!

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I'd put a recommendation to FPA or Accufab.

Although i have a set of Dougs on the convertible and didnt have interference issues other than with the spark plugs. I had to dimple it on the #5 to clear the plug if I remember right.
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I appreciate the recommendation guys but my other question is if the steering box and shaft are in the way of installing the headers? Are the FPA headers pricey? Thanks!
I have been able to install long tube headers with the steering box and steering shaft in place. It’s a PITA, but doable.

The FPA recommendation is out there cause their headers fit really well.

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Yes, the Hedman Headers go in with the box and shaft in place. I believe you will find it easier to fish them up from below, rather than try to stuff them in from above. Ramps on the front wheels should do the trick.
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I appreciate the recommendation guys but my other question is if the steering box and shaft are in the way of installing the headers? Are the FPA headers pricey? Thanks!
$1000...6-8 week lead time. Theyíre that good. Other than valve train, it will probably be my next purchase. My boss has them on his Ď66. They have clearance everywhere...and plenty of it.

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Does anyone know if the steering box and long shaft will need to be removed in order to install headers and then reinstalled? Also has anyone with a 302 Stroker motor in a 64-1/2 Coupe used Dougs headers with success?

No and Yes. Caveat...I used Dougs Tri Ys on a 65 and not a 64.5, but is there a difference as far as this goes?

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430 HP @ 6500...not too shabby for old school heads!

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$1000...6-8 week lead time. Theyíre that good. Other than valve train, it will probably be my next purchase. My boss has them on his Ď66. They have clearance everywhere...and plenty of it.
Your assessment is spot on. I spoke with Stan from FPA yesterday and he told me the exact same thing. Sounds as if they may be the best in the industry but they are big time back logged. They, like everyone across the country are having a tough time hiring fabricators and/or people that want to work with their hands... Such a shame. The product photos on their website look fantastic. Thanks for all the insight!

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Your assessment is spot on. I spoke with Stan from FPA yesterday and he told me the exact same thing. Sounds as if they may be the best in the industry but they are big time back logged. They, like everyone across the country are having a tough time hiring fabricators and/or people that want to work with their hands... Such a shame. The product photos on their website look fantastic. Thanks for all the insight!
I know waiting six to eight weeks seems like forever, but youíll likely have your headers for the life of owning the Mustang. Iíve used several types of headers on my two Ď66 and there was always one side (usually left) that had a super tight fit. Iím using the FPA step header, with no HP loss as proven on a chassis dyno, and the clearance is helpful when plucking and installing the motor. The step header is also a good choice for street use (mine is racing). Iím also using the Total Control rack and pinion so I canít help with your actual question, but I do think the wait is worth it for the FPA.

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