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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 05-20-2019, 06:00 AM Thread Starter
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NPD Torque Box ?

Rick, I see a lot of different torque boxes made and prices seem to be from $60 to just over $100. The left side on the one I got with my car does not fit the firewall at all and it will take a lot of work to get it to fit. So Iím asking whats a better fit as NPD also lists a couple different ones..
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Although Rick is pretty good about getting back to people on the forum, he does get busy...you might have better luck calling NPD directly.

I will be interested in the answer, as I will be doing this eventually.
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I did my 66 last year. After doing it I realized what the issue is. Besides 50 years of road use and iffy build quality itís that what the factory did and what we do are two different things. We buy either the 1 piece or 2 piece boxes. As built from the factory we would be just using half of the torque box, only the outer wheel side. When we use the whole box from the kit, the inner toe board is actually meant to be the toe board inside the car. How ever we are doubling up on the toe board or putting 6 pounds into a 5 pound bag. I elected to double up with the idea that it may help strengthen it up. On the inner toe board section from the kit, itís intended to weld inside the car and cut a slit through the existing toe board. I folded the flange 180* so I didnít have to cut the toe board and weld everything from the wheel well side. Hereís my installation. Iím not saying I did it the best way just simply what I did to see basically how itís done.

Structurally my car is in excellent shape to begin with. No rust, accidents or abuse. It was tight to begin with. The car was pretty quiet anyway but once done with the boxes it seemed to be very quiet. Iím not hearing any squeaks or groans. Itís not so much what you notice but what you donít.

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What would be ideal is for them to offer a "retrofit" torque box intended for cars that originally didn't have them.
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What would be ideal is for them to offer a "retrofit" torque box intended for cars that originally didn't have them.
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Thanks Guys but I would like to here as other said also what Rick has to say about them as they offer a couple different ones..
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Personally, I am now avoiding the Canadian made parts listed on NPD, as those are Spectra Premium (to my experience). I have not found their sheet metal to either be complete, or fit well. While it is a thicker steel, it seems to be built for you to complete and work in. For example, the passenger rear skirt (behind the shock tower) did not have all the holes of an original. The wheel wells were not formed correctly, etc. Also, for the front torque box, get the two piece. That should cut back on the options quite a bit. I will have to do some digging to get you a part number for mine (one came with the car, other from NPD) but they went in well on my 65. I may be avoiding some of the issues Tom ran into since its all new metal in that area.
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Personally, I am now avoiding the Canadian made parts listed on NPD, as those are Spectra Premium (to my experience). I have not found their sheet metal to either be complete, or fit well. While it is a thicker steel, it seems to be built for you to complete and work in. For example, the passenger rear skirt (behind the shock tower) did not have all the holes of an original. The wheel wells were not formed correctly, etc. Also, for the front torque box, get the two piece. That should cut back on the options quite a bit. I will have to do some digging to get you a part number for mine (one came with the car, other from NPD) but they went in well on my 65. I may be avoiding some of the issues Tom ran into since its all new metal in that area.
Yeah, I fell for the "Premium" label several times and not a single Spectra item, torque boxes included, fit without a lot of work.

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I just purchased the 1 piece units from CJPP and have been studying the assembly manual, it appears that the fire wall portion (inner panel/toe board?) is spot welded to the original fire wall/toe board? That's easy to do before the a-pillar and rockers are welded on, so I plan on drilling plug weld holes in the TB to weld to the toe board. I don't know that it will make any difference, but I'm replacing the floor panels at the same time.
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Sorry, I was travelling all weekend and yesterday...

The pros/cons between our Spectra and our imported torque boxes, and how they might apply to a 1966 installation, is not something that I have any real experience with. I must defer to Scott Halseth, who is our Mustang Project Manager. Please email him at [email protected] . Or call 1-800-521-6104, and ask for him directly.

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