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Suggestions for headlights?

My car is currently fitted with Hella H4 headlights, and while theyíre nice and bright, their flat lenses donít look so period-correct for these cars.

I saw the Scott Drake, halogen ĎFoMoCoí sealed beams on CJís website, and thought they looked worth a try. I tried to order them, but they were backordered (surprise, surprise), and then I found some terrible reviews in their quality, so I cancelled the order.

So, now Iím back to square-one. Iíd like to find some headlights that look more appropriate for a Mustang (convex), and give some decent output.

Suggestions?
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I'm running a pair of GE H6024 halogen lights on my 65 and see with them pretty well. I did upgrade the headlight wiring with relays and thicker wires.



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I'm running a pair of GE H6024 halogen lights on my 65 and see with them pretty well. I did upgrade the headlight wiring with relays and thicker wires.


Do you advise just running all new wiring from the relay with new connectors?



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Do you advise just running all new wiring from the relay with new connectors?
I had a replacement wiring harness already installed that was just a few years old. I just added some relays right above the wiper reservoir and then new wiring and spade terminals to the headlights. I removed the older wiring from the headlight connectors and reused the connectors after inserting the thicker new wires and spade terminals. The relays are hidden under the wiper reservoir bag.



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My car is currently fitted with Hella H4 headlights, and while theyíre nice and bright, their flat lenses donít look so period-correct for these cars.

I saw the Scott Drake, halogen ĎFoMoCoí sealed beams on CJís website, and thought they looked worth a try. I tried to order them, but they were backordered (surprise, surprise), and then I found some terrible reviews in their quality, so I cancelled the order.

So, now Iím back to square-one. Iíd like to find some headlights that look more appropriate for a Mustang (convex), and give some decent output.



Suggestions?
Funny, I was going to mention the H4 Hella's when I clicked on the link - until I read your post!

I am very happy with all four of them in my '69 as well as in another car that has 7" headlights. And while I like the look of the smaller ones on the Mustang, the 7" do look, um, different with the flat face. They work so well, I don't mind.

As mentioned, the relays really do make a big difference - have you tried them with regular sealed beam halogens?

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And while I like the look of the smaller ones on the Mustang, the 7" do look, um, different with the flat face. They work so well, I don't mind.
I donít hate the way flat-faced Hellas look...Iíve run them on 1960ís cars for years, and Iím not willing to give up much lighting power for something that looks better.

I have some friends who have a vintage headlight fetish, and they collect all these beautiful, NOS 60ís headlights that look like pieces of jewelry. I guess some of that had rubbed off on me, so I like the idea of getting something that looks more ďperiodĒ without spending a fortune on something vintage....and then having a rock go through it on the freeway.
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Wagner makes their BriteLites line with a sealed beam xenon bulb that looks pretty vintage. And they're only $20 a piece.
https://www.amazon.com/Wagner-Lighti.../dp/B000C90MNE

Whatever bulbs you use putting in relays will make them brighter and let you get the most out of them.
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Iím using Cibie H4 headlamps and love them. They look similar to the original but give great lighting.
Daniel Stearns website has some great information about lighting
https://www.danielsternlighting.com/.../products.html
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Iím using Cibie H4 headlamps and love them. They look similar to the original but give great lighting.
Daniel Stearns website has some great information about lighting
https://www.danielsternlighting.com/.../products.html
Same here, they look just like regular 'ol sealed beams. Beam spread is just glorious for night driving.

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Thanks for the suggestions, guys.
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I bought a set of these Delta led conversion headlights. When I bought them it was $15 for the pair, I bought enough to convert all 3 of my old cars. Much brighter than sealed halogens, with better light pattern.

https://www.amazon.com/Delta-01-1179...gateway&sr=8-5
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Yes that flat look sucks.

Easy to fix and you will have a better and more usable H-4 pattern:

go on Daniel Sterns we site and order a pair of the Cibie H-4 lenses (great convex shape, looks right at home on an old Mustang). Done. Miles better than the Hella's.

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