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post #31 of 40 (permalink) Old 07-13-2019, 01:30 PM Thread Starter
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The mustang shop in california - high back 69-70 mustang seat frames new
https://www.themustangshop.ca/product/1512212/658361




be prepared for some sticker shock
Yes they are expensive, and from what Iíve read they are really for a 70 lock mechanism, so Iím not risking that much cash on them.

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Just fyi, I've never received any pictures.. @mexicruiser.

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Just fyi, I've never received any pictures.. @mexicruiser.

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Add seems to have been removed, will have to keep looking, I called the Colorado shop and they said they were not sure if they have the seat but if they did it would cost $500 each, yikes!

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Can you link the ad? If @mexicruiser can't use them, I can.

I'm in a worse boat than mexicruiser in that I need the bottom for the passenger's side and the full seat for the driver's side for a '69.

Obviously, first dibs to mexicruiser.

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I just got a pair of front seats on ebay! The restoration will continue and hopefully be finished by the end of August.
Iím only going to use the driver side backrest so if you are interested in the passenger side and driver side bottom send me a pm, you would have to continue fishing for the driver backrest unless you want the rusty piece Iím replacing. No seat tracks though.

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FYI …

A '70 Seat back could have worked for a '69 provided the '69 latch hardware was all still useable. I swapped '69 seat back latch mechanisms into '70 Mach 1 Highbacks back in the 80's because I did not like the levers down low as it took two hands to operate (where you can unlatch & hinge forward a '69 with one hand). That and I wanted to keep my '69 to appear correct after the swap.

Just had to drill the 3 upper holes for the lever using the old low-back seat frames as guides and weld a nut down below for the lower latch bolt. Some extra washers were added to the lower latch bolt and it looks and works perfect.

'69 Seat Frames had some design flaws that caused them to crack or break at the hinge points (recall or TSB was issued, and I believe you can still get the repair kits from Ford) , so the '70 seat frames are a better starting point anyway.

Completely rebuilt these seats last summer and took some pics while they were apart.

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I just got a pair of front seats on ebay! The restoration will continue and hopefully be finished by the end of August.
I’m only going to use the driver side backrest so if you are interested in the passenger side and driver side bottom send me a pm, you would have to continue fishing for the driver backrest unless you want the rusty piece I’m replacing. No seat tracks though.
I received my portion of the seats that I needed from @mexicruiser today. I appreciate the help/heads up/everything and this could not have worked out any better (for both of us)!!

It's going to give me something to do this weekend also.

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p.s. I'm going to have a passenger seat back (high back) that I'm not going to need if someone is in need of one.
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FYI Ö

A '70 Seat back could have worked for a '69 provided the '69 latch hardware was all still useable. I swapped '69 seat back latch mechanisms into '70 Mach 1 Highbacks back in the 80's because I did not like the levers down low as it took two hands to operate (where you can unlatch & hinge forward a '69 with one hand). That and I wanted to keep my '69 to appear correct after the swap.

Just had to drill the 3 upper holes for the lever using the old low-back seat frames as guides and weld a nut down below for the lower latch bolt. Some extra washers were added to the lower latch bolt and it looks and works perfect.

'69 Seat Frames had some design flaws that caused them to crack or break at the hinge points (recall or TSB was issued, and I believe you can still get the repair kits from Ford) , so the '70 seat frames are a better starting point anyway.

Completely rebuilt these seats last summer and took some pics while they were apart.

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Thank you for the info Doug, I just figured if I was going to pay for the part I might as well buy the correct one, but this mod is definitely the best option if you already have 70 seats on a 69 car.

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Well got the seats ready to install but I wanted to bolt the center console in first to avoid having the seats in the way. Well I wish the TMI dealer who sold me the Sport R covers would have informed me these interfere with the center console. What to do next? Just squeeze the thing in? Ditch the console? Cut the armest off?
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Seats installed

I finished installing the 69 seats with the TMI foam and covers, they look really good but as others have stated there are issues with the concept, the foam is thicker and harder than the originals and this causes a couple of problems:
a) the seat back pushes you further forward, this causes the seat bottom to become very short, there is only space for your butt and most of your legs donít have support. It also requires you to move the seat further back, so tall drivers might run out of space.
b) the seat bottom pushes you further up, this reduces your headroom and brings your legs closer to the steering wheel.
c) the side bolsters are wider, and make contact with the center console (and the door panels in a lesser amount), you wonít be able to open the lid and I imagine some wear will happen to the seat covers in the long run.

At 5í9Ē I am not tall and because I am also very thin I find these issues to be tolerable, my head does not contact the headliner. My son is 6í (also very thin) and his head did touch the headliner, after cutting the plastic seat back stops to recline the seat back and moving the seat bottom all the way back on the tracks he fit ok.

For me the only issue is the seat bottoms are now short, this looks and feels funny in my opinion.
For anyone taller than 6í seat track extenders would be necessary and if you are also a bit heavy I honestly believe these seats would make you unconfortable.
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I finished installing the 69 seats with the TMI foam and covers
Looks very well done!!

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