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New here... First question

I just bought a '69 Sportsroof with a 347 and 4 speed (Factory was a 351C). I have some plans to personalize it a bit for my taste. But I need a little education... What is the difference between the Sportsroof and a Mach-1?
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all mach 1's are sportsroof's, not all sportsroof's are mach 1's...its "just" a trim package....albeit very desirable....you have 2 questions left. jk jk welcome to VMF.....maybe you should order the Marti report for your car to know exactly how it came from the factory. I think there are more mach 1's out there now than ford actually built.
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For starters, all Mach 1's were Sportsroofs but not all Sportsroof were Mach 1's. Mach 1 was a "performance oriented option package" that was added to a Sportsroof.

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Geicoman and Allen perfectly described the differences. Think of Mach 1 being similar to a GT package. It’s just an upgrade from a regular sportsroof. I would do what Geicoman recommended and get the Marti report. Congrats on the car and welcome to VMF. You won’t find a better forum for exchanging ideas in regards to early model mustangs. Also post some pics!

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Thanks, both of you! I did a VIN check, but that only gave the factory motor and where it was built. The "02" doesn't say which body style or does it? And the M codes it as a 351C V4. Does the V4 give a clue? Or is there somewhere else I need to look?
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Just ordered the report! Thank you all
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All '69 Sportsroofs had "02" in the VIN which signified the sportsroof body style. The Mach 1 option was signified by "63C" in the Body section of the data plate attached to the driver's door.
In 1970 the standard Sportsroof still had "02" in the VIN and the Mach 1 had "05" in the VIN.
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1969's never had the Cleveland. As a matter of fact, some 1970's got the 351 Windsor as they had some to get rid of at the beginning of the production run, but they did not put Cleveland in early (1969).
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The standard engine in the Sportsroof was a 6 cylinder. It was basically a base Mustang with the fastback body. The full range of options was available. The Mach 1 had a V8, full instrumentation, luxury interior, and other unique features. The Cougar XR7 was similar to the Mach 1 in several ways.

I've heard there were Windsor 351s in some 1970s. But I have never seen one or even pictures of one with a factory 351W.
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I went by this for the VIN, which showed my "M" being a Cleveland. Not important though as whatever the factory plant was has been replaced by the 347.
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I only have pictures from the auction site as the car hasn't been delivered to me yet. Do I share them here or is there a garage page?
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I only have pictures from the auction site as the car hasn't been delivered to me yet. Do I share them here or is there a garage page?
Pictures are pictures...we're just trying to get our fix!!

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Unquestionably the 1969 only had the 351W- M was the 4V and H was the 2V. The '69 Boss 302 was the first engine to use the 351C style heads but they were mounted on a Windsor block, thus the common name "Clevor".

In 1970 the M code was a 351C 4V. The H could be either a 351W 2V or a 351C 2V. There is nothing on the car that tells you which 351 2V engine was originally installed but a Marti Report will tell you which one it was.
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