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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-04-2019, 01:20 PM Thread Starter
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Headliner bows.

I think the head liner bow right above my head has popped out or flipped or something. The two to the rear are tight and holding the head liner up. The one above my head is really low. Hopefully you can see in this picture.

Any idea what is wrong? Can I fix it without removing the headliner? I don't think it was always like this.
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-04-2019, 01:32 PM
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I have not yet installed a headliner in a classic mustang(that is about 2 weeks away) so take my advice for what its worth...not much...however, the bows do swivel without popping out...so you may be able to push it back to its "top" position by hand if it hasnt popped out. If it has popped out, you might be able to take out the door windlace and peel the headliner back at that point to reach in there and fix it...then glue it back into place.
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I've tried pushing it back up, doesn't work.

I guess I'll have to open up the sides of the headliner.

Am I supposed to have a dome light up there?

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The bows are bowed and then hooked into the roof, so instead of pushing straight up I think you'll need to push it up and rotate it to swing it back in place. Though I'm not sure how it was able to move with the others in place and the front tight.

Is the front tight? Was the windshield out when the headliner was replaced?

Here's what they look like out to give you an idea.
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And yes there should be a dome light around here:
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Has anyone used the one piece headliners from Mustangs to Fear? If so, what are your thoughts??
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The head liner has been in the car "forever". It use to be fine then one day the single bow was not "up". Not sure how it happened. maybe it ripped away from the headliner? The head liner is still tight. It has not pulled away anywhere.

Obviously someone has changed the headliner at some point. I guess they decided the dome light was not important. I wonder if it's behind the headliner?

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Do the bows slide through a sewn sleeve in the head liner?

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I'm thinking the bow must have popped out of the roof hole on one side or the other and fallen over. i think it happened when I was on the highway with all the windows down and wind flapping the headliner.

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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-05-2019, 02:07 AM
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There should not be a dome light on fastback cars...
Fastbacks used courtesy lights on the b pillar instead (which never provide enough light for me personally...)

Also unfortunately fastbacks do not have the support rib present (where you would screw in the dome light into on a coupe like in the picture above) or I would add a dome light.

I ended up getting a rear view mirror with map lights off eBay and will wire it to come on when the door opens or when you flip the individual map light switches instead.

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Yes the bows are in little sleeves on the back of the headliner.

If the bow popped out of the hole it's possible that it's just the wrong bow for that position. All of the bows are slightly different so that might not be the correct one for the first slot and maybe it's a hair too short. Just wild speculation here. I'm not sure what you could do about it if it was wrong 'cause you'd have to take the top apart to fix it.
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Yeah mines a fast back so no dome light. I pulled the headliner down on the drivers side a few inches. The bow popped out of the hole on the drivers side. I’m guessing the bow is too short. However just above the hole a found a u-shaped notch in the structure frame. I was able to get the bow into this pocket with pliers and two people. It’s nice and tight now. I think the bow was purple? Maybe.

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