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Itís a stupid law. Hopefully it wonít pass.
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Yes, I know the law says otherwise but no one is going to come kicking in my door.
Not unless someone decides to turn you in for whatever reason, or the BATFE catches wind of it.

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Within title 26 of the United States Code, section 5601 sets out criminal penalties for activities including the following. Offenses under this section are felonies that are punishable by up to 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $10,000, or both, for each offense.
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Sac county is pretty dang big and has a lot of rural area. Haven't had time (and probably wont make time) to read the particulars specifically the zoning details. This sounds like something that may be selectively enforced in the more densely populated areas to rout out the nuisance home auto repair businesses.


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I live in Sac County. I am not running a business out of my garage. I have zero worries but appreciate you posting the link.

As for living in California, I could care less what others think of this magnificent state. Expensive, yep. liberal, yep in some places, high humidity, nope, frozen tundra in the winter, nope, drive your vert year round, yep. I have lived here 48 or my 48 years and there is nowhere else I would ever live.
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There are cities in socal where it is illegal to work on your car. In the early 1990's a guy I know got a ticket for changing spark plugs in his drive way in vinice beach. In another area(I dont remember the name) it is illegal to change a flat tire on your car even in your own driveway. A friend got a ticket for doing that. Another friend lived in an area in florida and it is illegal to park a pickup truck out in the open in your driveway. He had a very nice el camino and got a ticket and was told it had to be in a garage but a sedan can be parked out in the open. In socal where i live it is illegal to park a vehicle that doesnt run out in the open in your driveway. Even if it is a bran new car and wont start you either have to have it taken to a repair shop or put it in a garage. Back in 1986 when I lived in houston a guy in the apt building where I lived had a 1960's pontiac station wagon with faded paint. It was his only car and he drove it to work. It got towed under a blight law. The law stated that vehicles that were considered blight were towed away. That law eventually got changed. I got towed from the complex because the tow company said my car had not moved in weeks. I drove the car everyday and was able to park in front of my apt everyday because there were many empty apts. I had to pay money to get my car and rotated parking spots. Back in the 90's here in cali the legislature was trying to pass a law that would make it illegal to work on your own car,close all auto parts stores and make it where you had to take your car to the dealer you bought it from for maintaince and repair. The law never got passed, at least not yet. There are lots of other car laws that are on the books and more are in the works because of the stupidity that cars are causing climate change from the co2 they blow. Gas engines blow carbon monoxide not co2. If you gotta work on it try to do it either in mississippi or behind a solid tall fence or in a garage out of sight.
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“Gas engines blow carbon monoxide not co2.”

Not true.
CO2 is product of combustion. No matter what type of hydrocarbon is burned.
Gas engines produce both CO2 and CO.
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If you go to the forum listed in the article it's one guy that's complaining. In the thread the guy admits to having a shop on the property and also owns a shop in town. He has a lift, says it's not installed but swears he wasn't doing any work that's not allowed. He's saying it's $700 to appeal a civil code enforcement action. I can't find anything to support that.

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Back in the 90's here in cali the legislature was trying to pass a law that would make it illegal to work on your own car,close all auto parts stores and make it where you had to take your car to the dealer you bought it from for maintenance and repair. The law never got passed, at least not yet.
They'll find it extremely difficult to enforce any law that suggests only being able to take a vehicle back to a dealer for repair work.... warranty or other repair work.
Magnuson-Moss speaks to this at the FTC level and supersedes the state (any state).

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blog...ctions-repairs

I'm involved in an organization that watchdogs auto repair stuff at the federal level.

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In this day and age, it would be interesting to see the interworking's of California (State & Local) vs. Federal law...
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"...Furthermore, this kind of activity [working on cars] increases vehicle traffic and the visual impact can negatively impact property values.​"

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"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' " -George Will, Quoted in Frederick (Md.) News, 19 July 1976. February 1976, Sunday News Journal (Wilmington, DE), pg. 9, col. 1:
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ďGas engines blow carbon monoxide not co2.Ē

Not true.
CO2 is product of combustion. No matter what type of hydrocarbon is burned.
Gas engines produce both CO2 and CO.
In fact a typical engine produces about 500 grams of CO2 per mile and about 3 grams of CO.
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They'll find it extremely difficult to enforce any law that suggests only being able to take a vehicle back to a dealer for repair work.... warranty or other repair work.
Magnuson-Moss speaks to this at the FTC level and supersedes the state (any state).

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blog...ctions-repairs

I'm involved in an organization that watchdogs auto repair stuff at the federal level.
There was a big backlash from people that moved here from another state and people living here that moved to a different area and people with vehicles bought from dealers that had folded.
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It isn't just out west. Here in Texas where I live the tax board tried to tax my shop as a business. I had to go down and file a protest on it.


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It isn't just out west. Here in Texas where I live the tax board tried to tax my shop as a business. I had to go down and file a protest on it.

So do you just get a refund then as you are just pouring money into your own car?? Seems fair to me.

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