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Used the flux core welder. Couldn’t get the nut to stay attached so I just kept building up the weld until I could grab it with a pair of channel locks! You guys helped me a lot otherwise I probably would’ve broke an EZ-Out off in there.
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As a side note can someone tell me how to reply where it shows the individual’s comment that I am replying to?
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Victory! Too late for this adventure but it's worth noting that when you weld on a fastener like that it's also like the perfect way to apply helpful heat to it that helps break it loose too. I know a couple of people who hardly bother with other methods of bolt extraction, they just go straight for the MIG welder. Particularly when it's exhaust bolts/studs broken off in cylinder heads.

Nobody really LIKES flux core welders but with practice they are as viable as any lower priced MIG. Just the welds are less attractive and there is more cleanup. My small shop welder for 20 years was flux only. Within its limitations it's always worked just fine. And if you are outdoors trying to weld something on a very windy day flux is the way to go anyway. The welding skills you learn using flux core will transfer if you decide to upgrade to a gas rig later.
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Victory! Too late for this adventure but it's worth noting that when you weld on a fastener like that it's also like the perfect way to apply helpful heat to it that helps break it loose too. I know a couple of people who hardly bother with other methods of bolt extraction, they just go straight for the MIG welder. Particularly when it's exhaust bolts/studs broken off in cylinder heads.


Nobody really LIKES flux core welders but with practice they are as viable as any lower priced MIG. Just the welds are less attractive and there is more cleanup. My small shop welder for 20 years was flux only. Within its limitations it's always worked just fine. And if you are outdoors trying to weld something on a very windy day flux is the way to go anyway. The welding skills you learn using flux core will transfer if you decide to upgrade to a gas rig later.
Thanks Gypsy, I intend on upgrading at some point so that’s good to know. 😊
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Nice!!
And, just to throw an idea out there for re-installing the pump: mine is currently installed with stainless steel bolts and anti-seize (no RTV on the bolts). Been that way since Feb. 2016 when I "finished" the car. No leaks, no puddles... and if I want to remove the water pump, no bolts rusted in the block. It's a beautiful thing.

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In 197x.... err back in the day when you were learning to weld in a formal setting they made you start with oxyfuel welding. Then stick then if you were really good and lucky at the time you could move to the fancy new Heli-Arc machine. Only a few made that. I wasn't one.

I was getting a bottle of argon a few weeks back and was looking at torch rigs and the counter guys said they're selling more of other fuel gases than acetylene. Apparently acetylene is stupid expensive these days. Had no idea. They were pushing propylene as the fuel gas. Cheaper, lasts longer, burns hotter they say.

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I Apparently acetylene is stupid expensive these days. Had no idea. They were pushing propylene as the fuel gas. Cheaper, lasts longer, burns hotter they say.

Yea my oxy accetylene bottles sit empty these daze. I get by with Map Gas and Mig...

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I was getting a bottle of argon a few weeks back and was looking at torch rigs and the counter guys said they're selling more of other fuel gases than acetylene. Apparently acetylene is stupid expensive these days. Had no idea. They were pushing propylene as the fuel gas. Cheaper, lasts longer, burns hotter they say.

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.....and a Plasma cutter is so much easier and precise. I purchased mine from Robert's Oxygen's professional shop at a time they were changing out their older units for new ones. Heck, their "older" units are still pretty darn good. It uses 50 PSI (air) and 110V. It'll cut up any metal on our old rigs. Yeah, we got off topic.

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I have a Hypertherm Powermax 30 hand plasma that's modded and can be fitted to a table as well. I've had it almost 10 years. I haven't used a flame hammer in at least 6-7 years or so and that one wasn't mine. I was interested in a rosebud torch for heating and forming. By the time I got the gas and torch outfit it was at least $400 all the way up to a grand. I passed.

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