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Question Water Pump Question on 306 motor

My buddy is considering the M 6007-X302 motor to replace his tired out 289 in his 67 Coupe


I have heard the water pump with the passenger side outlet interferes with the harmonic balancer


Is this true? Any help greatly appreciated


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I will have to look- thats the motor I got and I don't remember any problems- But it does take a different balancer and flywheel or flexplate than the old motor as the balance is different.
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The motor is balanced to 50oz. It comes with timing cover. Unless it needs to removed and replaced is what I am thinking




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The balancer supplied with the M-6007-X302 is a stock replacement for the '81+ balancer which is used with a water pump with a driver's side inlet.

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I think I did change the timing cover- Its been a few yrs and so IDK off the top of my head. Will look when I get home and see if I can remember. I am pretty sure both radiator connections are passenger side. I know the engine was complete- and I definetely had to change the oil pan
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Can I use the timing cover for the 67 Mustang then? Of course one has to remove the harmonic balancer then put it back on.


Should be a 1 hour job or so?


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I think it would be easier to change the radiator to a DS lower hose
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Crap I forgot to check last night- Will try again tonight- From what I remember I used (old style) timing cover- pulled out the (new 50 oz) harmonic balancer and installed (old) cover and new balancer and done. Prob less than an hour if its out of the car. I did this so I could use the old style pulleys, radiator and accessorys. I already had purchased these items and didn't want to try to change over to serpentine (not so sure that was wise now as I have a really long run from alternator to ac compressor) So I would consider v belt vs serpentine before you drop $$.
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If I use that radiator with the DS lower hose, what is the best hose to use with it?


I hear Maverick, Bronco, Granada. Just a mix up if what I think it is




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It's not just the HB that is the issue, if the water pump is reverse rotation then you will need to run serpentine belt system that spins it in reverse. And when swapping to a standard rotation water pump you must make certain that your timing chain cover will work with it. I have seen some new tc covers that will accept either pump. Also make sure your HB and timing pointer match up.

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My buddy is considering the M 6007-X302 motor to replace his tired out 289 in his 67 Coupe.
I have heard the water pump with the passenger side outlet interferes with the harmonic balancer.
Is this true? Any help greatly appreciated.
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Why would the RH hose interfere on a M 6007-X302 engine while it clears the huge balancer on the 289HP?

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He did install the water pump for the 67 289 on this 306. When you put the hose on, it rubs on the harmonic balancer. I was not there to see it for myself. I do believe him unless he got the wrong pump.


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There are pumps with driver's side and passenger side inlets for both reverse and standard rotation pumps. Get a pump based on your radiator outlet, so you don't have to 'cross over' under your damper, and it won't rub. Or, have a local radiator shop put the outlet for your radiator on the side where your pump's input is.

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