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Trying to dissasemble my seat rails for restoration

I am trying to disassemble my seat rails to restore them but seem to be unable to seperate the sliders from the tracks. Google says you bend the tabs at the end of the tracks down...but that does nothing since they dont even reach the tabs before stopping. I thought maybe it was just one bent up rail...but all of them stop before reaching the tabs...am I missing something here?
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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 07-16-2019, 08:34 AM
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Probably just need to release the latch, pretty simple mechanism not much to go wrong.
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Not sure bending the tabs on a hardened steel track is a good idea. If you carefully work the nylon guides out, the track will come apart without bending.

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Probably just need to release the latch, pretty simple mechanism not much to go wrong.
Any pictures? Not the seat position latch obviously? since the rails are off the seat with all springs disconnected, I dont see anything else that could be considered a latch. I cant work out the nylon spacers with the sliders in the tracks...they have a tab holding them in from what I understand
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Don't take them apart!....If you bend that tab, There's a 90% chance of it will just breaking off....and then it's garbage. I used to restore these for years...finally, I stopped trying to bend the tabs and just injected new grease into them from the ends after I painted them... You can re-bend the tab maybe once or twice, and it might work, but most times about 90%... they just break off, Once that happens, The part is junk.

Today when I work on old Seat Rails, I just make sure that everything is sound like the mounting bolts...and replace any Seat Rack Bolts that need replacement. Then, I clean/strip them off as best I can, Re-prime, then re-paint....then before I install the seat tracks, I impregnate them at the ends with some brown bearing grease. Done. That's about all you can do.

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Just like 22GT said, you can get them apart and back together without bending the tab. It is a bit of a puzzle to put it back together if you don't pay close attention. I have not touched mine in 2 years so I can't remember the exact process. Mine needed to come part to de-rustify, paint and modify for seat track extrensions
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I rebuilt mine about 5 years ago and like Tallguy I don't remember how I got them apart and back together but I did.
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Don't take them apart!....If you bend that tab, There's a 90% chance of it will just breaking off....and then it's garbage. I used to restore these for years...finally, I stopped trying to bend the tabs and just injected new grease into them from the ends after I painted them... You can re-bend the tab maybe once or twice, and it might work, but most times about 90%... they just break off, Once that happens, The part is junk.

Today when I work on old Seat Rails, I just make sure that everything is sound like the mounting bolts...and replace any Seat Rack Bolts that need replacement. Then, I clean/strip them off as best I can, Re-prime, then re-paint....then before I install the seat tracks, I impregnate them at the ends with some brown bearing grease. Done. That's about all you can do.

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Doesn't matter...the part is metal and I have a welder(several welders, MIG, TIG, and Arc)...a tack weld works just as well in place of the tab(or I can weld a new tab on, whatever). In any case, its not the tabs holding them and never was...what else am I missing? They have to come apart to get rid of the rust and be painted...these seats have probably been sitting in barn for 30 years...who knows...a lot of surface rust on these rails.

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There are two rollers that have to come out first, one from each end (past the tabs that you bend down). Once the rollers are out then the top and bottom will slide apart.

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There are two rollers that have to come out first, one from each end (past the tabs that you bend down). Once the rollers are out then the top and bottom will slide apart.
That explains it...the studs hold in the rollers...so studs have to come out first..then rollers..now it should be easy...thanks.
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"There are two rollers that have to come out first, one from each end (past the tabs that you bend down). Once the rollers are out then the top and bottom will slide apart."

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The Metal tabs hold back the rollers.... Accidentally break the tabs, and the rollers will just slide out...and the part is garbage until you pick up a mig welder and weld back a tab..

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I just went out and looked at my seat tracks which are still taken apart and there is no such tab anywhere (and it has not been broken off). The tracks are totally smooth on the ends. I ASSUME my seats and tracks are the original that came with the car but maybe there was a design change sometime. This may be why some here are saying they have done it without bending anything and others not

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Not that I know of...unless they are incorrect from another brand car..

There is a Tab is on the top part of the slider assembly at each end of the top of the assembly on both ends to keep the rollers from falling out.

How about posting some pics of your Seat Tracks...so we can cut down on the guessing...so we can see what you actually have. Be sure to take pics of both ends of all of the seat tracks that you are having problems with.

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I cannot help with the seat rail disassembly, but you could soak them in Evaporust to deal with the rust issues.
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Not that I know of...unless they are incorrect from another brand car..

There is a Tab is on the top part of the slider assembly at each end of the top of the assembly on both ends to keep the rollers from falling out.

How about posting some pics of your Seat Tracks...so we can cut down on the guessing...so we can see what you actually have. Be sure to take pics of both ends of all of the seat tracks that you are having problems with.

Thanks...

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Well, I am not having problems with any of my seat tracks...at least I can take mine apart. But here are the pics.

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