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Trying to Determine Original Paint Colour

I have recently purchased a 65 convertible K code
Build date is 10M (December 10 1964)

Paint Code is "K"

Early builds say "SilverSmoke Gray"
Late builds say "Med Gray Metallic"
Not sure if I have an early or late build (thinking early)

Is my car either one of these colors ?
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"SilverSmoke Gray" and "Med Gray Metallic" could very well be the same color. Ford was known for having multiple names for the same exact color over different car lines all produced in the same year.

For example, For the Mustang, The car's color would have one name, but under the Thunderbird or Lincoln Car lines, The same very exact color would be called something else, yet still be the same color and same code.

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So going forward would a December 1964 build date be considered an Early Build or Late Build ?
And what color do you think my car is currently ?
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I would consider December to be early. For example, you would have the 2-speed heater, and push-on door handles.

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Color often stayed the same with the same code but a different name in the same car line year by year as well.

I found my original color under the cover on my trunk rod.


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I have recently purchased a 65 convertible K code
Build date is 10M (December 10 1964)

Paint Code is "K"

Early builds say "SilverSmoke Gray"
Late builds say "Med Gray Metallic"
Not sure if I have an early or late build (thinking early)

Is my car either one of these colors ?
Every reference book in my office, along with my old paint-chip books, refer to K as "Silversmoke Gray". So I don't know what reference book you saw "Med Gray" in, but I'd have to say it's random, and probably referring to the same exact color.

As for early/late, typically "early build" refers to so-called 1964 1/2 cars, with the cutoff between early and late landing in August 1964.. But as was pointed out above, other features continued to transition-in further into the 1965 production year..
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Late builds say "Med Gray Metallic"
Were did you get that info?

I got a book that says "Medium Gray" was a name used for a special 1967 Shelby color. It was actually a color used (with another name) on Lincoln and T-bird, but not Mustangs.

K is Silversmoke Gray on a '65 and you car look like that. A silver with a blueish/greenish tint. It change some with the light. Someone with a silver smoke car once wrote that his wife called it the concrete color.
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I've seen my green color called a few different things as well but still have the same code #'s. It might simply be a paint makers descriptor, like Sherwin Williams or Dupont chip chart might give it a name and not use the Ford name.

'63 and '66 Ford used "K" for a blue so no confusion there...

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I might also suggest looking for the original color on the car. My car didn't have the door tag when I bought it. So I wasn't sure the original color, until I starting taking the car apart and found a PERFECT paint swatch under the Rocker Molding clips, which were not removed during painting. There would be other places as well depending on the extent the car was disassembled when repainted. Then simply match the color to a period paint chip card.

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Ford was really funny with color names.... A few popular examples would be '65 "Poppy Red".....It was later known in '69-'70 as "Calypso Coral".... Same color....

Or "Acapluco Blue".....which was also known as "Medium Blue Metallic"......also same color....

I could go on....

A good place to look for the Original color of your car is underneath the Sill Plates, Under the dash, Inside the trunk area (On top ceiling above the Prop Rods-Wall that separates Power Top Motor and trunk)....Underneath a piece of pulled back trunk weatherstripping... etc.

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About fun with the names ... Shelby "Medium Gray Metallic", T-bird "Charcoal Gray", Lincoln "Huntington Gray" and Mercury "Coventry Gray" are all the very same color. Ford's "Silversmoke Gray" was called "Anniversary Silver" (1964) or "Pearl Gray" (1965) if used on a Mercury.
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The book I was referring to is published by "Cars and Parts" called
Catalog of Mustang ID numbers 1964 1/2 - 93
Also using Tony Gregory's "the 289 Hi Performance Mustang" third edition

Any guess on what the color on my car is currently ?
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Going out on a limb I'll say Silversmoke Grey. No one will ever be sure of dead nuts shading short of seeing it in person.
Around your door tag, the screws and striker show zero evidence of a repaint that I can see so thats a good sign yet not absolute for comparison since it is in an area out of the sun and UVs.
It would be remarkable if its not been repainted and I'm thinking if it had been resprayed as late as the 90's they could have gotten an absolute perfect match for the OE ingredients for the color easily, not saying they couldn't have later than that from different ingredients or formulation.

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