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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-20-2019, 08:15 PM Thread Starter
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Along the Lines of Some Recent Posts

So in early April I decided to start emptying my basement of the many thousands of dollars worth of parts I had been accumulating over the last few years. I put the car up on jack stands and began the process of:

-Cutting out the rear suspension (every bolt had to be cut with a sawzall).
-Removing the entire steering system.
-Removing the entire fuel system.
-Sanding down everywhere I could reach underneath with a wire brush and grinder.
-Hitting the underside with a few coats of POR15.
-Dropping the oil pan, banging out some dents, repainting it, installing new gasket.

Then began the process of:

-Installing a power rack and pinion steering system (Unisteer).
-Installing a new power brake booster and master cylinder.
-Installing new rear brake lines.
-Installing new rear springs/shocks/shackles/bushings.
-Installing new fuel tank, in tank Holley fuel pump and 3/8" stainless steel fuel lines.
-Installing Fitech EFI system.
-Installing '85 Mustang SVO seats the I reupholstered with TMI Mach 1 style covers.
-Installing lokar gas pedal and throttle cable.
-Installing export brace (Monte Carlo bar).

The process took longer than planned (when doesn't it) and everything seemed great. Car started right up with the EFI. No leaks from the brakes, steering, etc. And the seats are comfortable AF.

I got the car down on the ground and was getting ready to bring it down the street for a front end alignment and after driving it one car length out of the garage...

THE [email protected]#$%&*G TRANSMISSION EXPLODED!

Fluid all over the driveway and underside of the car. Slamming in and out of gear as I sat there (C4 Auto). And the sound coming from inside resembled that of a rock tumbler. Mind you this was the ONLY part of the car I hadn't touched at this point.

So now I'm faced with a new transmission (I'm going with an AOD. I have a local guy who has come highly recommended by multiple lifelong mechanics and classic car people). I was planning on this anyway but that was a plan for a few years (and quite a few paychecks) down the road. The kicker is that I still don't know if everything else I've done is working correctly. I might spend big bucks on a new transmission and find out I screwed up a bunch of other crap when I go to test drive it.

I keep telling myself that it's better that it happened in my driveway and not 50 miles from home or doing 50 miles an hour driving to work although that line of thought is wearing thin. It's also not my daily driver (yet) although that is my goal with it for the nicer months around here. My wife keeps asking me if I actually like doing this (and also keeps asking me if I'm OK after she hears a loud noise from the garage and then a lot of cursing ) and lord help me for some reason I keep saying yes.

Sorry, just had too vent.
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-20-2019, 08:24 PM
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Vent away, man. Been there to some degree. I plan to do an AOD if my C4 ever really craps the bed. I don't want a computer controlled trans in the car...

I imagine your other work is fine since you have the time, wits, will, and tools to do the work. So what if it needs a little tweaking? I have projects to do and improvements to make on everything in my life and I'm kicking around buying another Mustang this week to hide away until the time comes for my younger son and me to have a project.

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About 15 years ago I spent 2500 for a new Art Carr AOD. Put it in the car myself, didn't quite have the tv cable adjusted correctly, within 2 miles my high buck tranny was toast. Whatever you do make sure that cable is adjusted correctly. Tranny is still sitting on a shelf in the basement, makes me sick every time I see it.
Back to the C4 and 3500 rpm at 70 mph....
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On a side note, where did you get the 3/8" SS fuel lines? I've got a Sniper efi to install this summer.
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...3500 rpm at 70 mph....
You make this sound like it's a bad thing!



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You make this sound like it's a bad thing!
Yeah try driving a 90s Miata. 3500rpm at 60mph and no powersteering. Horribly bad car to drive.
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Yeah try driving a 90s Miata. 3500rpm at 60mph and no powersteering. Horribly bad car to drive.
Hmmmm, I don't think you'll ever hear me say, "When I was out driving the Miata today...".



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When I used to open track my Pantera there were 4 guys with Miatas in our group. I've got to tell you those little f#$%$r's were fast in the twistys.
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The car I had before this was the original Miata (1973 MGB). That car was slow but was a blast to drive. Even doing 40 it felt like you were doing 80 and handled like a go cart. Multiple people tried telling me that my brake lights weren't working and I would just tell them that they only work when I actually have to use the brakes.

I got the fuel lines from CJ's ('67 two piece hard lines). A little bit of a pain to fish in under the car around the rear axle, suspension, etc., but everything lined up great once it was in. I really like the Holley in tank pump. No return line and internal regulator. Just make sure you use EFI rated fuel hose for the short connections and EFI rated hose clamps. I had already rewired the car with an AAW harness last year and added a fuel pump relay so hooking everything up with the Fitech was a breeze.

I had been researching the AOD swap for years and after talking with the guy building my unit for 5 minutes he spit back everything to me that I had been reading about for a long time. Part of that was adjusting the tv cable correctly.

I bringing it over to his shop on Tuesday so hopefully I'll be back rolling soon. I think he might even let me help him build and install it. Does seeing that as a good thing mean I have a problem?

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When I used to open track my Pantera there were 4 guys with Miatas in our group. I've got to tell you those little f#$%$r's were fast in the twistys.
Yes, The Miata Spec cars are a handful!

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I feel for you man. I got my hardtop running after almost 3 years and believed I had everything sorted out. I took off down the road and about 10 minutes later I could feel the clutch going soft (TKO600 with a Tilton hydraulic throwout). Limped it back to the house to discover that both the braided clutch lines were leaking.

Now, not nearly as expensive as doing an AOD swap but I still had to pull the damn transmission to fix it. I guess it's all a part of the experience right?
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"Hmmmm, I don't think you'll ever hear me say, "When I was out driving the Miata today..."

LOL...You obviously haven't seen the the M1 Mustangs.... Half Mustang....Half Miata.... Basically A '65-'66 Mustang Convertible body on a Miata chassis. It;s a bit shorter than the real '65-'66 Mustang....Like a "Shorty Mustang".....They are built here in Florida...still being built to order as far as I know. I've met the builder quite a few times at car shows...He is like the nicest guy...

M1STANG

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featu...ng-convertible

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