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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 01:38 PM Thread Starter
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Looking for my 1970 Boss 429

Hi my name Wayne
In 1970 I purchase a new Grabber Orange Boss 429 VIN 0F02Z119808 and the KK number is 2252. In 1985 I did the dumbest thing I sold it. At the time I was living in North West Indiana. In 2018 I found the person I sold the car to he was till in Indiana
he said he had sold the car four years later and he things the person was from the Denver Colorado area. If anyone knows anything about this Boss 429 please contact me. My email is [email protected] and in the Subject Line uses Boss 429
I'm live in North West Indiana in the summer and Austin,TX area in winter.
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Why not list every detail about that car. Options, owners names, etc...there's a lot of people here who know how to search the internet pretty well. I sent you one link that has partial matching numbers. This is a very desirable and rare car, so it is easier to find than others.

Have you hired an investigator?

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Although this site specializes in the Boss 302 there is a section for the Boss 429 and Boss 351. They also have a registry. I would think that most of the surviving B9s are known.


The BOSS 302 Registry
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What the heck is a KK number?

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Hope you have a big wallet.....It'll cost you the price of a nice house.

Would think that a car of that caliber/stature would be rather easy to track...since its not your average car. It;s like trying to track a Shelby. I would contact the Boss 429 Registry. Most of those cars are accounted for.

Boss 429 World Registry. Locating information about historical Boss 429 Ford Mustang vehicles.

and..

Boss 429 "registry"

and..

https://www.classiccarcommunity.com/...irectory/3039/

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What the heck is a KK number?
Kar Kraft...

"Ford contracted with Kar Kraft of Dearborn, MI to modify 4-speed Cobra Jet Mustangs to accept the new Boss 429 Engine. Kar Kraft was a Ford exclusive experimental facility that functioned as Vehicle Engineering for Ford's Special Vehicles"

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And Kar Kraft stuck a tag with a unique identification number onto the door of each Cobra Jet Mustang they converted to a Boss 429.
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Now I remember Kar Kraft modifying the cars. I did not know that they assigned a number to them. Learn something new every day.

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Sorry guys I’m not one to correct fellow VMF’s ( wait that didn’t sound right ),,, What car craft was actually out of Brighton Michigan which is about a 40 minute ride from Dearborn.

How I know is I live in Livonia which is in between both of those cities.

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Sorry guys Iím not one to correct fellow VMFís ( wait that didnít sound right ),,, What car craft was actually out of Brighton Michigan which is about a 40 minute ride from Dearborn.
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car craft? You mean Kar Kraft, not that that I am one to correct...

https://macsmotorcitygarage.com/vide...kraft-in-1969/

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Yeah I get the “Do-Mas” award for that one.

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Sorry guys I’m not one to correct fellow VMF’s ( wait that didn’t sound right ),,, What car craft was actually out of Brighton Michigan which is about a 40 minute ride from Dearborn.
I literally copied and pasted that from Wikipedia...The whole text...

"The Mustang's engine compartment was not wide enough to accommodate the massive Boss 429 engine. As a result, Ford contracted with Kar Kraft of Dearborn, MI to modify 4-speed Cobra Jet Mustangs to accept the new Boss 429 Engine. Kar Kraft was a Ford exclusive experimental facility that functioned as Vehicle Engineering for Ford's Special Vehicles. Kar Kraft had previously developed the first GT40 MKII (winner of the 1966 24 Hours of Le Mans) and designed and built the GT40 MKIV (winner of the 1967 24 Hours of Le Mans).

Production of the Boss 429 began in 1968 at Kar Kraft's new assembly plant in Brighton, Michigan; the cars were transported to this plant directly from the Ford Rouge plant. The new, revised, front apron assemblies that accepted the large Boss 429 engine had been installed by the Rouge plant as the base vehicles were being built; this produced a stronger and cleaner front structure. The reworked front fenders were also installed at the Rouge plant."

You will notice it mentions the "new assembly plant in Brighton". I don't know if they moved, if the information is erroneous or if Kar Kraft had two different locations. I hope 1968Cally's question was answered nonetheless...

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By the way I went to the pre-cruising festivities on Woodward yesterday and today. Awesome!!

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I went in 2016. Loved it!!

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You will notice it mentions the "new assembly plant in Brighton". I don't know if they moved, if the information is erroneous or if Kar Kraft had two different locations. I hope 1968Cally's question was answered nonetheless...
Prior to the Boss 429 assembly in Brighton, Kar Kraft was limited to hand-built vehicles (GT40, Nascar Torino/Cyclone, etc.) which were done in their building on Haggerty Street in Dearborn. That is probably why the term "new" was used in that sentence.

I know a few people from Ford that worked in the Haggerty building. In fact, the Ford racing group was co-located there. When Henry Ford II had decided to switch gears from racing to focus on economy/emissions, there was a famous episode in November 1970 where Ford racing people showed up to work at the Kar Kraft building only to find the building doors locked. The Kar Kraft organization was put on notice so they decided to lock the doors. Since they were so tight that was a lot of Ford equipment and property that they could not get to. I'll have to ask what happened to get that resolved. The Ford racing boss found everyone a new job - most back at the EEE (triple E) building next to Greenfield Village.
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