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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-18-2002, 12:42 AM
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Depending on which decoder program is used I receive two different options for this paint code.
Some show Z = Sauterne Gold
Others show Z = Med Sage Metalic
Can anyone confirm what the correct color is for a June 1966 build with Z on the warranty plate.
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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-18-2002, 01:10 AM
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I wish I could have a real color. I'm stuck with Wimbleton White [IMG]/forums/images/icons/frown.gif[/IMG]
post #3 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-18-2002, 03:04 AM
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I see your dilema. I went through 5 of my many books and the score was 3 to 2 Medium Sage metallic. I also see that zim64half's page www.svs.com/zim/mustang/colors.html has it listed as Saturene Gold.

Is it possible that they are the same color?

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Not sure if they are the same color.
The herb Sage is described as having greyish green leaves whereas Sauterne is the name given to yellow colored white wine made in the Bordeaux region in France.
To me the color of my car is more green than yellow but to others they see it as a gold. It is certainly a metalic paint though.
I have been to some body shops and we cannot find this code listed in the DuPont catalog. I have a Ditzler # of 43433 from a site listing Z as Sauterne Gold. The body shops I have been to cannot cross reference the Ditzler #.
All I want is some touch up paint!
post #5 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-18-2002, 03:32 AM
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Got to zim's site, there are two pictures (Saturene was a 67 color too) and take a look. The two pictures he has seem to match your description (more green than gold). Somebody has a good list of the paint codes around. I'll see if I can find it...

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Here is another place to try:

www.metromustang.com/FordExterior/Paint.html

Sorry I couldn't help more..... [IMG]/forums/images/icons/frown.gif[/IMG]

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post #7 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-18-2002, 03:49 AM
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Thanks I have just had a look at Zim's site. Certainly the 66 convertible is the same color as my convertible. I would even say the 67 is the same it just appears slightly different because of the different light. I have noticed when photographing mine it can certainly changes depending on the surrounding colors and whether it is in shade or full sun.

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"Authentic Restoration Guide Mustang 19641/1-1973" from Tom Corcoran & Earl Davis reads as follows:
"1966 Mustang Exterior Paint Codes...Z = Sauterne Gold.....
1966 Special Order Colors (no codes).....Sauterne Gold Metallic.."

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Well, I can pretty much say that they are usually considered the same color. BTW that's
my '66 convertible on Zim's site. It's definitely a metallic paint, and in some light looks
quite green in color. In other more direct light, it looks more gold.

My door code is Z also. The "original" paint that I have on some areas of my car is a lot less
green and more gold.

So go figure!

Hope that helps.

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Hey Guys I received this reply from another source.
Seems to make sense of the issue.
Thanks to those who helped.

"You're confused because "Sauterne Gold" was one of several promotional names under which Ford sold a paint-color called Medium Sage Gold Metallic. The basic idea was to get maximum use out of a given shade by using evocative titles....purely for advertising purposes.
But this could have caused problems at the parts counter. So, company personnel are instructed to stick with the basic color name and/or its part number - these are strictly one-to-one. In comparison, some shades were assigned as many as seven promotional names.
In your case, "Sauterne Gold" was the name used on 1966 Ford cars. Simultaneously, Mercury Division advertised it as Sage Gold, while Lincoln used the more upscale sounding name Florentine Gold. Even so, all Divisions encoded it Z and sold it under p/n 1915. Go figure marketing, huh?"
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I had a 66 K code GT the color at time of sale was called sage gold
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my 66 mustang has paint code z and its Sauterne Gold.
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A friend of mine has a Sauturne Gold code Z car with original paint and interior and it is definitely a greenish hue until the light hits it a certain way. The car is GoRgEoUs and optioned-up with a vinyl top and wire wheel covers, it is a factory A code 289, auto, power brakes, power steering, air conditioning, console, Ivy Gold and White deluxe interior and deluxe belts. Very classy color combo.

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It was very commonplace in the 60's, not just with Ford but with GM too, to use different names for the same identical colors between different divisions..

In 1966 Code Z for Ford was Sauterne Gold, Mercury was Sage Gold, and Lincoln was Florentine Gold.

In 1967 Code 4 for Ford was Silver Frost, Mercury was Sheffield Silver, and Lincoln was Silver Mist.

Similarly, at GM in 1967, Code F for Chevy was Marina Blue, Buick was Blue Mist, Pontiac was Tyrol Blue, and Olds was Bimini Blue. All the same exact blue.

It can get plenty confusing..
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Im sure 17 years later the original poster has found the proper paint.

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