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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-21-2016, 07:19 PM Thread Starter
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Ballpark figure on 69 sport roof/ Mach ?

Hi, newbie here, long time muscle car guy have had many Chargers, roadrunners and right now I have a demon 340 6 pack that i have had for 25 years! Anyway I know a guy who has a 69 mach 1 that he purchased about 15 years ago in Texas from a friend. He drove the car for a year or two and then partially dissembled it, mostly took out the seats, bumpers, and little things then parked it about 13 years ago and here we are today. He said he was told its a Mach when he purchased it but the pics he sent me has us both wondering. Its a H code, 4-speed, lime gold, i haven't looked at it yet but may in the next month. from the pics it looks like it has duel sport mirrors, hood scoop, looks like hood pins, and a black lower strip. Is it possible its a 63B? he said it ran strong when parked but of course everything will have to be gone through after all these years. he said the floor was rusted but the rest is fairly solid. He has some new and used parts for it and i think a new floor. I know not a lot of info right now but any ballpark range on what is a fair price? Thanks
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post #2 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-21-2016, 08:30 PM
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Factory Mach 1 will be noted as 63C body style on the drivers door tag.

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You will find that most Ford fans also get along with Mopar folks. Having said that, Demon 340 and a six pack. Cool! And is it an owner modified add-on, or one of Mr.Norm's? (the dealer in Chicago who modified them when new)
I used to own a 68 'Cuda 340 4 spd Formula S. It rusted away as I used it as a daily drive here in the rust belt. I still miss that car.

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Hi, newbie here, long time muscle car guy have had many Chargers, roadrunners and right now I have a demon 340 6 pack that i have had for 25 years! Anyway I know a guy who has a 69 mach 1 that he purchased about 15 years ago in Texas from a friend. He drove the car for a year or two and then partially dissembled it, mostly took out the seats, bumpers, and little things then parked it about 13 years ago and here we are today. He said he was told its a Mach when he purchased it but the pics he sent me has us both wondering. Its a H code, 4-speed, lime gold, i haven't looked at it yet but may in the next month. from the pics it looks like it has duel sport mirrors, hood scoop, looks like hood pins, and a black lower strip. Is it possible its a 63B? he said it ran strong when parked but of course everything will have to be gone through after all these years. he said the floor was rusted but the rest is fairly solid. He has some new and used parts for it and i think a new floor. I know not a lot of info right now but any ballpark range on what is a fair price? Thanks

You can buy clean Mach 1 driver H codes, for 25-30kish.

I would guess his car is worth about 10k depending on level of rust and what he has for "new" parts.
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Like most vintage cars, a lot of variables go into determining value and price. Start with what it is (Mach 1 or base Sportsroof?) What factory drivetrain and equipment did it come with (small block, Big Block, Cobra Jet, Boss 302, Boss 429, A/C, tilt-away column, etc.?) What condition is it in ( rust wise, damage wise, missing equipment wise?) What is it's provenance (solid documentation?)


From there, the assessment moves to what you want it to be when it is done? For example are you looking for: a beater with style; a nice driver; a competitive concourse trailered winner, a track car; or what?


Do not underestimate the cost of high quality rust repair, body work, and paint, especially if you are farming out that work.


Generally a project car will cost more to get it to the level you want than buying a complete car that is already turn key for your purposes.


With these things in mind, look at what done cars of that caliber are going for (not asking prices but actual sales prices). Then calculate what it will take to get your project to that level. Do the math to determine the present value for your purposes. From there contrasting value with asking price will help you narrow down the price range that works for you.


In general I have seen total turds go for $7K and up. I have seen decent drivers in the low to mid $20K's I have worked on solid cars that cost $25K and up to reach the level of very nice driver.


Go over the car carefully and report back with your findings for a tighter range of sale prices. Good Luck.

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Thanks, I've always got along with Ford guys. It's not a Norms car, it's a fairly hi option demon 340, sport hood, tach, buckets,console, p/s, tuff wheel, it runs very low 12's. It has the old Direct connection mechanical carbs, that ironically were designed for Fords NASCAR program.
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You can buy clean Mach 1 driver H codes, for 25-30kish.

I would guess his car is worth about 10k depending on level of rust and what he has for "new" parts.
Briefly spoke to the owner, and that's about where he values the mustang, he said the 2bbl was replaced with a 4bbl. he hasn't seen the car in years its parked in a garage at one of his rental homes, who knows what it will look like when we look at it! May look at it in a few weeks but if i cant ill see if he can take some pics of it and the door tag. I'm thinking its not a Mach 1with the fender emblems but i do like the less is more of the standard sport-roof and if it turns out to be a 63B and with the 4-speed I'm guessing its a somewhat rare car.
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ok that looks better
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He said he was told its a Mach when he purchased it but the pics he sent me has us both wondering.

For not too much $ you can get a basic Marti report in a few days.


It will tell what the car came with, based on the VIN, and if it was originally a Mach 1 optioned car.


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Thanks for all the feedback, he should be getting me some pics in two weeks. If it's a car I want to go after I'll get the Marti report.
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He didn't get pics for me so this one will have to wait till i have time to drive the 400 miles to check it out, IF its truly for sale. Positive side is there seems to be plenty for sale closer to me in various states of completion.
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If the seller can't even supply pics . . move on.
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A few things. 1) I would never travel 400 miles without knowing nothing about a car. He needs to get you some pics and vin number before you even think about it. There are other cars out there as you are finding out. 2) Once he provides you the vin number get a expedited standard report that and pay $30 (or less) to find out what type of car it is.
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With the Marti, you don't need to know any of the rest of the stuff because it will tell you what is on the car (trim paint and options!)

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