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A familiar story. 40 years ago I had a modified 312 in my 56 Ford. It was hot for a 312, easily revved to 6000 rpm
had a stick O.D. trans and 3.90 rear. Had driven the set up over 50,000 miles, daily driver. One evening after work coming down the ramp to the expressway. About 5000 rpm ready to shift to third and BOOM!
You know the old saying- they always run best right before they grenade.......

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Slim - No pics with the polaroid?

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Have pics of the baby blue 56 vert but non of the engine! Ya back then Polaroid was the thing! The pack was about $1.50 a pic for color.


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Have pics of the baby blue 56 vert but non of the engine! Ya back then Polaroid was the thing! The pack was about $1.50 a pic for color.
Don't forget about the flash. LOL

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I am "re-thjinking" how often I am going to rev my engine to 6,000+ RPMs. It is very fun to do, but that picture of the twisted connecting rod gives one pause.

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Something happened at the small end of the rod. Definitely not a typical failure.....

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I have a 302 block that has been cleaned and magged if you need it. It is currently .030 over
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Guys you have to remember.....

This engine is 4 years old, and that stuff has never been replaced, which would be fine for what 99% of people do with their cars, but I was way exceeding what the internals are rated for.....way exceeding. If I ran the full 1/4 on the bottle, it went through the traps at 7200-7300 RPMs. This was a stock F4TE block, Scat CAST crank, and I beam rods, and a hydraulic cam. Cast cranks and I beam rods were never meant to turn that kind of RPMs, but they turn 6400-6500 all day with no issue. This is the main reason I tried to run 1/8 mile most of the time, because this engine was on borrowed time from day 1. The engine made enough power on motor to run [email protected] on motor, and it's seen up to a 250 shot, and has made over 200 passes with anywhere from a 150-200 shot. Most of those were about a ~175 tuneup.

That rod didn't fail because I was turning 6300 RPMs. It failed due to parts fatigue as a result of being WAY overstressed for so long. I drove this thing on the street 6000-7000 miles per year, and I can tell you it saw over 6300 every time I got in it. It made power to about 6700 RPMs.
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In this very video, I'm shifting at 6600, and it goes through the traps at 7200....... C

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Dang. That sucks! What version of Morel lifter is that one?

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Sorry about your luck. I can't resist posting a pic of my 1600 Formula Ford motor from a few years ago after the crank let go, also destroying my transmission housing and adapter. 7000 RPM and everything just went quite....no oil, fire or drama, it just quit with a mild bang !
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Wow! That's an interesting one. Awesome pictures. Sorry about the engine, though it sounds like you knew it was on borrowed time anyways so it's not too much of a hardship.

Can't wait to see the new engine build!


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That sucks you trashed the motor. Are you going to switch to a forged crank and H-beam rods on the new motor?

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So what's the problem...the rod bearing looks great!

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That sucks you trashed the motor. Are you going to switch to a forged crank and H-beam rods on the new motor?
I'm doing a Dart block, so it'd be silly to shell out that cash on not put a quality rotating assembly in it. If I did another stock block, I'd probably still go with the stuff I had. I think it'd be a tossup on what fails first. I'm really wanting to do a turbo setup, but I'm not sure I'm patient enough to save the money. Nitrous is easy and effective.
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On Corral, Woody who owns Strokeme had posted a while back that a lot of F4TE cores he's inspected have had cracks in the cam journal area and he's had to scrap them. Maybe this was the issue.


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